Letter to John Anderson, GBC member, att'y:
Hello John, I wanted to let you know what I experienced when I
went to the church vote last Sun. [Feb. 5] I met Nelline and Betty Frank when I arrived and b/f heading over to the gym, Nelline mentioned that I
needed a packet to be allowed in the meeting. She said members could
pick theirs up at one of the tables in the patio, so I headed over to
the one that listed Ha and asked for my member packet, which. . . wasn't there.
When I said I was a member and should have a packet, he
sent me over to another table where 2 women had a tablet to sign if you
didn't get a packet and felt you should have had one there. One of them
asked me if I was a current member at the church, which I replied that
I'd been a member since 1947 and had not sent the church a letter of
intent to remove my membership. Also, I had not received a letter
telling me that my membership at this church had been removed. I
mentioned that I had been attending Los Altos Grace Brethren Church but
had not changed my membership.
The other lady told me that there were
criteria for removing members from the church membership, one of which
was not attending for a period of time. The member would then be
mentioned at a board of Elders meeting and they would vote to remove
the name. I was so taken back that I didn't think to reply with, "How
would they know I wasn't attending here unless they have members sign in
as proof"?
Anyway, standing next to me was a member, Mrs. Schilling,
whom I remembered from our days together at the church at 5th and
Cherry, many years ago. She spoke up and said, "I'm a member of this
church and also send in money and also attend, so why don't I have a
packet?" They said they would look into the names on the tablet we were
to sign.
I was told non-members could observe the meeting from the
chapel on closed circut TV. I went into the Chapel and saw Betty Frank
sitting in the back and sat down by her. She told me that she was a
member who has been attending and sending in contributions, but was told
she didn't have a packet. She wasn't told of the table with the sign-in tablet for those who felt they should have a packet. I would like to
know if removing my membership without proof of my non-attendence and
not notifying me of the removal is contestable? Do you have any
suggestions for me?
Thank you,
Shirley Ketchum Haralson
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Response from John Anderson:
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Love you Shirley! Be advised that not allowing you to vote was illegal. I corrected the Chairman
during the meeting when he tried to say that was the rule. To apply the
section they "cited" incorrectly to you, you would have had to have been
taken through a Mt 18 discipline process. . . someone has to approach you
about your "sin" (which in this case would be the man-made sin of
failure to regularly come to Grace).
If you heard me during the first
part of the meeting you heard me raise the issue of denial of the right
to vote. By being timely raised it does not matter whether or not your
vote would have changed the outcome. It automatically voids the entire
vote. They will not respond or accept this but it is correct. . . I am so sorry that you and others were
abused like this and I hope that someone will raise this issue to
Chairman LaBa[r]bera, the elders . . . at the EBOE meeting, and
anywhere else they can. They will not provide us the exact vote or the
list of people (all. Not just those that went the extra mile they were
not legally required to by signing their list) who were denied the right
to vote. John
I was also turned away from the meeting. When I told the gentleman at the back door of the fellowship hall that I believed that I met the criteria to vote but had no packet, he instructed me to go outside to a table for "people with your problem." (not kidding, exact quote). I would like to see the bylaws but they are not on the church's website.
ReplyDeleteIf I had been a member when I attended Grace, I would no longer be one now. I don't attend regularly, but every now and then I like to go for nostalgia and to hear Lou speak. But even if I had been a member, I wouldn't have gone to vote. I love Grace Brethren and all of the people who go there, but my absence from the church negates my ability to vote. If I'm not there to really know what is going on, then I should not have a right to vote. The majority of the people involved in all of this stupid arguing are involved based on hearsay. They don't attend regularly, but they did at one point, and so they take the word of their friends and stand on one side or the other condemning the side that they are not on. I can say that I have been one of these people..but the more I look at the situation, the more my heart breaks for my old church. The problem here is not who is right and who isn't. Look around and see the division that this is causing. Are the elders really the problem? Are the watchmen really the problem? Satan is dividing you all and everyone is letting him do it. No matter who wins in the end, relationships and people will be broken. Is that really winning at all?
ReplyDeleteUm, your church has never had voting freedom.
ReplyDeleteI was shocked beyond belief when i was there in the mid-80s for the vote for your senior pastor. The church had been without a senior pastor for some time, and in my opinion, was quite desperate. The search committee had made their decision, and then the elders met with him and made their decision. They presented that man to the congregation and asked for a rubber stamp approval. I was one of the few (6 ?) who was opposed. But the way the presentation and voting was done, i'm sorry, i saw no choice given to the congregation.
It has evidently been done that way for years. The elders decide and so the congregation says "Yes" with no other option presented. There you have your 90% majority. But currently there is a large faction in your church that can't agree with the elders and so there are huge problems because there is no precedent for working out such problems. The congregation followed before.
I'm not meaning to be unsympathetic at all. I am so sorry this is happening. But i don't find it a surprise.
The way leadership has been run made this an inevitable problem eventually. You also need to remember that the way church - any church - is run currently is a business, and not much more. THE Church of Christ (not the denomination) is what each of the people of the universal, catholic Church do in their every day lives. That is a huge discussion for another place, but it means that decisions are made that are for the business, not for God or the people of God.
I love attending corporate worship and feeling part of the whole in that attendance. But i never mistake any church i attend for THE Church. A building and the way the congregation runs it is a business.